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Commons:Deletion requests/File:DaliMuseum1.jpg

Hi, JWilz12345. I don’t think this qualifies as a Spanish FOP case because the statue is located in an interior courtyard beyond the museum entrance, in other words in a place with restricted access and not in a public place, properly speaking—unlike, say the Monument to Francesc Pujols, which is located in a public square outside the museum. —Rrburke (talk) 15:26, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Rrburke no, it is qualifiable under FoP case category. All deletion requests concerning public art are rightfully FoP cases, even if the FoP rules of each country do not cover works depicted in the nominated images. We have been categorizing DRs concerning Spanish indoor works under that category, like: Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Blaugrana.JPG (categorized under Spanish FoP case way back 2012, during the time I wasn't yet a user here on Wikimedia-world). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 15:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, JWilz12345. Thanks for your reply. Help me out, because I don’t immediately see how La Reina Esther qualifies as public art, since it’s located inside a private museum you have to pay to gain admission to, unlike the Pujols monument that's located in the public square outside the museum and which the general public has access to. The museum's website says explicitly:

La comunicació pública de les imatges preses a l'interior dels museus Dalí estan subjectes a llicència d'ús i liquidació de drets

Rrburke (talk) 18:45, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Rrburke: . I apologize, I cannot comment on the situation of those museum artworks, perhaps other users may be of help. Regards, JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 01:42, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Notification about possible deletion

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Yours sincerely, JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 19:19, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sad that Aegukka would be deleted eventually

I was very shocked to find that PD due to ineligibility is worse than PD due to copyright term in the United States. I had long dreamed of keeping Aegukka (the North Korean anthem) on Commons since yesterday, and we took a lot of effort to prove that it is PD due to our claim of not being restored by URAA, but unfortunately the final nail in the coffin has been placed. I was pretty anxious about the fate of Aegukka, but all hope has been lost now that pre-2001 North Korean works were most likely restored in the US even though they remained PD in North Korea. VTSGsRock (talk) 03:08, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's sad but, it's a reality due to COM:URAA. It was once challenged in a US court but the opposition got defeated. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 03:12, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JWilz12345 I also have a feeling that the 2001 law was retroactive in the first place because in a lawsuit on the copyright of North Korean works in Japan, the Korea Film Export & Import Corporation tried to sue a Japanese film distributor over the use of North Korean films, including one film made in 1978. Furthermore, the second plantiff (referred to as X2) made an agreement with the Ministry of Culture that confirmed the copyright to the films. Although the case result was that North Korean works are not copyrighted in Japan (which is irrelevant anyways because Commons is hosted in the US), the case shows evidence that the North Korean government doesn't treat pre-2001 works as PD. No need to discuss on the village pump, however, since the final nail in the coffin for Aegukka has already been placed because of a loophole in the URAA.

Source of the case: https://ipforce.jp/Hanketsu/jiken/no/1896 VTSGsRock (talk) 03:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@VTSGsRock you may want to add the case file to COM:North Korea. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 03:19, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JWilz12345 Finished and added a separate section. VTSGsRock (talk) 03:31, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@VTSGsRock The only question now, when will its US copyright expire? So that we can preemptively categorize under one of the "Category:Undelete in X" categories. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contributions) 03:14, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Easy question! The copyright of Aegukka in the US would expire in 2041. Maybe the sound recording would be restored in 2090 since it at least appeared in a 1994 KCTV broadcast, since there isn't a US Navy Band recording.

If we weren't able to salvage Aegukka on Commons, at least it will be undeleted sooner by 12 years (2041 instead of 2053), now that we know that it is PD in North Korea due to non-retroactivity, but restored due to some technical loophole for the rule of the thumb (PD in source country as of URAA date). VTSGsRock (talk) 03:18, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]